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by james macgregor | August 3rd, 2001 | contact: james@netribution.co.uk

Distribution Unmasked by Edinburgh Panel

UK independent producer and distributor, David Nicholas Wilkinson of Guerilla Films, has organised an industry panel for filmmakers to consult on distribution as part of the Edinburgh International Film Festival.

David Nicholas Wilkinson’s views on film distribution were aired in a Netribution interview feature earlier this year. (See Netribution's Interview) His new initiative follows debate on the independent filmmaker internet forum Shooting People.

Surprise, Surprise!

A Shooting People posting from Wilkinson prompted no fewer than 200 replies, taking him by surprise. He decided this showed the need for hard information among filmmakers and the most effective way of dealing with it would be to have an industry dialogue on the subject of distribution at the next important film gathering.

Wilkinson himself will chair the "meet the industry" panel of knowledgeable industry professionals, which will include leading world sales agent Gary Phillips, Liz Rosenthal from Next Wave Films, David Castro CEO of the New Producers Alliance, Virginia Nelson of film publicists Corbett and Keene.

To make the most of a 20-minute session, questions are asked for in advance and attendance is by appointment only. If you want to attend, you need to contact claire.battersby@edfilmfest.org.uk

The Back Story

The distribution debate on Shooting People had begun over the lack of audience for even relatively good British low budget films, like Urban Ghost Story that, despite critical acclaim, fail to get cinemagoers queueing to see them in any numbers.

Wilkinson distributes over 40 low budget feature films concentrating on British films by first-time filmmakers. He says what is needed is not a new filmmakers movement, but an audience.


"The problem is not distribution or exhibition. Cinemas are very supportive of new films. It's not money, you only have to see excellent well funded campaigns by the likes of UIP, Pathe, Entertainment for a number low
budget British films. The problem, very simply, is that the British public will not pay to see British films."

Wilkinson’s company, Guerilla Films has conducted detailed market research at both multiplexes and independent cinemas nation-wide. He says results show what low budget Brit-flics are up against.

Blockbuster Favourites

"Less than 5% of all the people interviewed would pay to see a low budget British film (we gave them 25 examples) in the cinema regardless of who was in it, or what the advertising was. Even then, they would see it only as long as there was not a big budget blockbuster showing that
they had not seen."

On the other hand, big budget British films like Bridget Jones came out better, with 31% of the sample saying they would, or did, pay to see it.

The June 10th edition of Screen Finance published a very detailed account of the domestic performance of all UK films in 2000. This totalled 67 films. By Wilkinson’s calculation, between
45-50% did not even recover their promotion and advertising costs (P&A).

"If you take a film like Gangster No1 - not in my view a low budget film- FilmFour ran an excellent PR and advertising campaign for it," Wilkinson says. I consider it to be one of the most successful films of last year on many levels, yet I cannot see how FilmFour made back their P&A".

Net Returns Poor

"It grossed £325,763 which sounds a lot, however it was released on 112 prints which gives it just £2,909 per screen. You then need to deduct 17.5% VAT. Of what's left the exhibitor will take 75%. In some cases, if the film played to near capacity, it may have had as much as a 50% return - but those cinemas will not
be in the majority," Wilkinson maintains. "The net return per print of this film is therefore approximately £600-900 per print."

"The cost of the print alone will be £500-£600. On top of that is the cost of advertising, the PR campaign, shipping each print back and forth to cinemas plus numerous other costs, not forgetting the distributors fee for their staff, overheads and so on."

According to the Guerilla Films boss, one of the most successful low/no budget British films I have seen in the 20 years since Bill Forsythe's £6,000 That Sinking Feeling is Following.

"I have never known a low/no budget film get such glowing reviews, in fact few high budget films receive such praise, yet it only grossed £36,000."

The distributor points out the irony that low budget filmmakers, who should be interested in all low budget film, are the least likely people to go and see someone elses’s low budget work.

"If all shooting people readers had gone to see the film the gross would have been over £100,000. The audience most likely to be interested in low/no budget British films does not pay to see it."

Ghost Story

One filmmaker who has been on the sharp end of film promotion recently is Chris Jones, filmmaker and co-author of the indie bible "The Guerilla Filmmakers Handbook" whose latest production, Urban Ghost Story, opened on two screens simultaneously in Glasgow and London. He rejects the idea of relying on advertising as means of making the potential audience aware.

"When you say advertising, the only thing that you can really do is get people to be aware of the film. Once they are aware they will decide if they want to invest five pounds and two hours of their life with your movie. This is crucial to remember. Who will pay money to see your film? And it's the people who will pay money who you will target, not just blanket the whole country in the hope everyone and their brother will turn up because it's 'my movie and I made it and it's really great!"

"There was and is, NO point trying to seduce a mass audience in for Urban Ghost Story, they just wont come and see it in their droves. No matter how much we spent on PA."

Targeted Audiences

"Instead, we focussed on spending zero on advertising and paying an agent to get articles and features wherever we could, but always targeting a select group who we felt would come see the film. We were reviewed by every major newspaper, bar the Sun and Mail. Most were favourable. We got "Movie of the
Month" in Film Review and Dreamwatch, we got good reviews in Total Film and Empire, we got a great review in Time Out, a great feature in the Guardian, I did loads of radio, including Back Row in Radio 4 where Andrew Collins compared the movie to Swordfish, the Hollywood mega buck movie that bumped
us off our screens, and he said it was better. Just his opinion and I am grateful for it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg... there is much more we did."

The reviews Jones and Jolliffe got are all on their company’s web site." www.livingspirit.com

Previously, Jones had attempted an advertising approach to marketing an earlier feature, but found it was not cost effective…..

Taking on Hollywood

"I tried to take on Hollywood with our second film, White Angel, a serial killer thriller starring Peter Firth. It got good reviews, we did all the PR, fly postered the whole of l London, big posters small posters. Ads in the
Evening Standard and other papers... Spent a packet. Went out on 15 prints, four in London, 9 around the country. The film died. We got about the same revenue as we have with UGS because there are only so many people who will go see a small Brit Film. So we got the same amount of money but spent ten
times less."

According to Jones, audience resistance to low budget product hinges on lack of intrinsic qualities, or, more simply, a previous bad consumer experience……

Too Much Crap

"One sad reason the public at large don't go to see indy pix is that these films don't feed their needs, or worse, they have been bitten before. 'I saw one of those low budget movies once and it was crap'. In fact, low budget movies are almost always art films. I don't like labels and feel faint at the thought of Urban Ghost Story being considered an art film, but that was my UK audience in cinemas."

Jones feels that many British low budget films fail to meet audience expectations.

"Sadly it's often not a taste issue, they are simply incompetent. I hate to point fingers, but I believe movies like Rancid Aluminium drive audiences away from British films in their droves. It was an incompetent film. Sorry guys, but I know your next film will be considerably better."

Horrors

"Low budget films do not break through The only exceptions are horror movies, and that's once every ten years. Texas Chainsaw, Evil Dead, Blair Witch... so plan a horror movie for about 2007!"

So has Urban Ghost Story, with its London and Glasgow showings, been an urban screening success story?

A two-week run was almost extended. If eleven more people had turned up to see it in week two, the film would have run to a third week. Despite this near-miss, the film’s producer, Chris Jones, feels relatively happy.

"We have so far had a screen average of around £3,500. That's actually very good for our movie and a lot better than many other films with massively bigger budgets and huge PR campaigns. Just consult the figures in Screen Finance if you want a harsh reality check."

Harsh Realities

The harsh reality is low budget is a difficult market to exploit, with many filmmakers not managing to recoup costs, let alone make a return on investment. A common assumption to the scenario is to assume that costs can be covered by the returns made back from video.

"Not true," says indie distributor David Nicholas Wilkinson. "If any distributor can achieve 3,000 units (actual sales, not shared revenue) in the rental market and 5,000 on DVD/VHS in the retail market they are doing well. The income from this sector -remember money also has to be spent releasing on video/DVD- is usually not enough to cover the losses from even a very small cinema release."

So, is the answer to look at recouping costs through sales to UK terrestrial TV? Not according to Guerilla distributor Wilkinson, who says this market has its own problems.

Hard TV Times

"Both the BBC and Channel 4 are making more films than ever. They are having a hard enough time slotting in their own films. I know film makers who have made films majority funded by these broadcasters that
are still waiting to be seen. Also, this country produces exceptionally good television programmes. These also have to be scheduled. It all makes less time available for other British films."

Wilkinson says, the answer lies in markets abroad, where low budget British film does not have to compete with a high-quality domestic programme output.

Going Greek

"Ironically a low/no budget British film is more likely to sell to a Greek or Portuguese or New Zealand broadcaster than it is to a UK one. Those countries do not make as much programming as we do in Britain, so have to fill their schedules with acquisitions."

"There are a number of cable companies here who are very supportive of low/no budget British films and do screen them. The problem, seen from the film sale side, is these outlets make very little money from subscriptions and advertising from which to pay their operating costs. They also have to meet their acquisition costs for hundreds of new films every year. What they can pay is extremely small."

Market Saturation

Part of the overall problem is that of a saturated market. Every single year there are far more films produced than the world’s distributors and broadcasters can possibly handle.

According to Wilkinson, terrestrial broadcasters would buy more low/no budget British films if they did well at the box office. But to do that, they need to win a UK cinema audience, which is where the debate began.

Even well-heeled companies find the UK cinema market tough going, despite effective marketing campaigns. Wilkinson maintains there is considerable built-in resistance stopping audiences for British low-budget film.

"It's not the marketing that's the problem. Large companies such as Pathe, UIP, Momentum have spent large sums running excellent campaigns for outstanding British films and still they fail. Just look at the box office returns in Screen Finance. Look at the figures over the last 20-30 years. All these companies have supported British films for many years. The problem is the audience. However, this is just the UK."

Vital Ingredient

"Very occasionally, one British film out of 200 will recoup in the UK. This has been the case since the 1950's. For British films to succeed financially they need to sell overseas. This is why sales agents are vital to a film’s success."

"Two years ago the Head of Distribution at the EU MEDIA programme. told me that of all the EU member states, British films are the most successful in terms of sales to other member states. She said that they have data showing that many, many British films sell to every single EU state EXCEPT the UK."

"If you take a UK company like Spice Factory, they make dozens of films. They are very successful but very few of their films ever make it to the UK cinema - in fact I cannot think of one. However, they sell all over the world. They continue to make films because their films are financially viable. The secret of making films is actually very simple. if you make a film that makes someone money, they and others will back your next film."


The potential success of British film in the world market was endorsed on Shooting People list by Israeli filmmaker Naama Nachmani, who points out that overseas, British film has an important advantage, a perception of quality.

Britflics Are Best

"A lot of people around the world will pay good money to see a British film, just because it is British. British movies have an image of high quality movies , sincere and realistic movies. We expect them to be better than American ones. Maybe this image was created because we see more American movies and the British ones we get to see in our local cinema are indeed the best ones, but this is an advantage that you should ,and must, use."

Chase Johnston-Lynch an American filmmaker, now resident here and a fan of the Britflic, suggests many British films are raw compared with Hollywood output, but enjoyable for their characterisation.

US Intelligence

"UK films not only are based in characterization, probably because they can't afford explosions, but they also are intelligent enough to not conform to the Hollywood necessity of formulaic scripts and exposition. You can just jump into these movies and the characters unfold with pleasure."

Johnston-Lynch has taken this on board and is now rethinking his portfolio.

"I've been spending the past couple of months, "anglifying" my scripts because I enjoy the care that is put into UK cinema. A care that doesn't deal with special effects, the latest tool in animation, and the high grade
explosion. As an American, I'm hooked. And as Natives, you should rethink your opinions and take another look at your films. And then ask yourself, why do the Americans steal from you? From your TV shows to your actors."

The US is often heralded as a place where independent filmmaking is in a healthier position, but in actual fact, problems faced by low budget filmmakers are even worse than in the UK.

US Independents

"American Independent cinema is not doing that much better," Indie distributor David Nicholas Wilkinson maintains. "If you look at the New Release section of Screen Internationals North American Box Office page they publish all the films released the week before. Very few of the hundreds and hundreds of American independent films made every year ever make it to the cinema. The vast majority go straight to video or TV. In the USA the costs of releasing are far higher than here simply because of the size of country."

Wilkinson has been approached with American Indie films that never got theatrical distribution.

"Claire Battersby who runs the UK/LA Film Festival, came to me earlier this year with a couple of dozen excellent USA films, none of which could not get cinema distribution in America."

Bigger Is Better

DVD and video market prospects for the US are better than in the UK. Again, according to David Nicholas Wilkinson, it is down to sheer scale, With the size of the US offering a much greater income opportunity.

"If Blockbuster take a film in the UK they may take 1,000 copies to go into every store, with some taking 2 copies. Because the USA is so vast Blockbuster are likely to take 15,000."

The producer/distributor points out that US broadcast regulations create helpful market conditions for import.

Empty Cable Slots

"American broadcasters are restricted by law from making too much of their own programming. Therefore it is far easier to sell films to a US TV or cable company because they have so many empty slots to fill."

So, given the complexities of the market, the poor cinema audience for low/no home product, the reliance on downstream markets to try and recoup costs, let alone make a profit, can there be a future in low/no budget British film? According to the Guerilla Films boss, there is, but attitudes need to change and market considerations have to come earlier to the filmmaking process.

"There is a way forward. I know I bang on all the time about "Following", a film I do NOT distribute or "Small Time Obsession" which I do, but both were made for very little money. Both raised the finishing funds easily -because they are good. Yes, both did badly in the UK, but both are now selling very well around the world."

Make Them Better

"Do not give up making these films -just make them better. Also, find an executive producer with a track record who can bring in sales agents, domestic distributors and will help in many aspects of the film. So many first time film makers think they know it all. Very few of them do. I have been in the business for 31 years and I am still learning things."

Marketability

"Marketing begins with the film making process. You MUST make films that have marketable elements. "Following" was made for £3,000 in black and white with no stars, minimal locations, all of which is off-putting to most people. Yet it is marketable around the world for its unique story and execution. "Small Time Obsession" is a coming of age story. There are so many coming-of-age stories, but this one is marketable because it is set in the British/polish community. No one had ever done this before. This is it's unique selling point. Every filmmaker needs to ask themselves what's my film's unique selling point ?

The distributor maintains that the product has to be treated like any other commodity fighting to gain a place in a saturated market.

"Films are no different to soap powder. No new soap powder is going to sell unless it has something unusual or different about it, regardless of how much is spent advertising. To gauge success in the market filmmakers need to ask themselves one question only. -Why would anyone pay to see my film?"

Websites:

David Nicholas Wilkinson
guerilla films ltd.,
http://www.guerilla-films.com

Chris Jones
Film Maker / Author
Living Spirit Pictures,
http://www.livingspirit.com



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